Dr. Kipenzi Herron and Shanelle D. Johnson

A Podcast About Relationships

Real conversations.Real life.

The Premise

Every episode starts with a lie. We take it apart.

Popular relationship advice sounds good. Gets repeated for years. And may not actually be true. We're two licensed marriage and family therapists who decided to say that out loud.

Somebody Lied When They Said...

Love Is Enough
Love Is Enough
Happy Wife, Happy Life
Time Heals All Wounds
Boundaries Push People Away

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The Lies We're Unpacking

Dr. Kipenzi Herron and Shanelle D. Johnson

Meet the Hosts

We're not here to lecture you. We're here to have the conversation.

Dr. Kipenzi Herron ↗

PhD, LMFT

A licensed marriage and family therapist and researcher who brings clinical depth, cultural context, and zero tolerance for oversimplified answers.

Shanelle D. Johnson ↗

LMFT

A licensed marriage and family therapist whose direct, grounded approach makes complex relationship dynamics feel immediately recognizable.

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